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		<title>By: Tackling the Future of Real Estate Brokerage &#171; The Notorious R.O.B.</title>
		<link>http://robhahn.wordpress.com/2008/02/22/squidzipper-trulia-and-homedepot-future-tense/comment-page-1/#comment-1094</link>
		<dc:creator>Tackling the Future of Real Estate Brokerage &#171; The Notorious R.O.B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] investing in technology (capital) leads to de facto control of the customer relationship. I wrote about this a while back and see no reason to alter my opinion. I have bought dozens of items from Ebay over [...]</description>
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		<title>By: -Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>-Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 03:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#2 - Jessie: &lt;i&gt;If they can’t remember the agent they worked with during an emotional time over 30-60 days, how would they ever remember the agents office (brand)?&lt;/i&gt;

Especially if the consumer didn&#039;t find the agent through a brand website or brand local office, but through some megasite like Trulia, Zillow, or some platform operator like SquidZipper....

This also goes to Charles&#039; comment in #4 -- &lt;i&gt;today&lt;/i&gt;, I think the consumer is going to contact Century 21, because that&#039;s all they remember.  And for what it&#039;s worth, my recommendation to the Big Brokerage guys would be to guard that brand and that customer relationship &lt;i&gt;very&lt;/i&gt; jealously.  Because if it ever should come to pass that the consumer routinely finds agents through Trulia... then Century 21&#039;s days are numbered.

#7 Brad - First, thanks!  Second, with respect to your question... from the &lt;i&gt;agent&#039;s&lt;/i&gt; perspective, you&#039;re absolutely right.  Because the Home Depot contractor here is not the brokerage company given the way compensation is structured in our industry.  But from the broker&#039;s perspective -- the guy taking on all the risk, all the overhead, all the liability insurance, and so on and so forth... I&#039;m not entirely sure that&#039;s a good thing.

You see this today in commercial real estate to some extent, where the &quot;platform operators&quot; have immense power.  Walk into any reasonably small local brokerage (not one of the Big Kids like CBRE and Cushman) and ask the top producing agent to choose between continuing to work at Joe Smith Brokerage or continuing to have CoStar.  You&#039;ll be shocked at the answer.

If, and this is a big if, the broker is more than happy to become more-or-less the fulfillment arm of Zulioogle, then I suppose that&#039;s a good business model.  Focus on what you&#039;re good at -- showing houses, shepherding people through the insane real estate closing process, etc. -- and let Zulioogle focus on marketing, customer acquisition, and customer relationship management.

Three things about this plan, however.  One, you&#039;d better &lt;i&gt;hope and pray&lt;/i&gt; that you never piss off Zulioogle, or there goes your pipeline.  Two, you&#039;d better hope that Zulioogle means it when they say they&#039;ll never charge you a 30% referral fee, or set the maximum commission you can charge for any business coming from them, or... you get the idea.  And three, understand that Zulioogle doesn&#039;t need you; it just needs your &lt;i&gt;agents.&lt;/i&gt;

-rsh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#2 &#8211; Jessie: <i>If they can’t remember the agent they worked with during an emotional time over 30-60 days, how would they ever remember the agents office (brand)?</i></p>
<p>Especially if the consumer didn&#8217;t find the agent through a brand website or brand local office, but through some megasite like Trulia, Zillow, or some platform operator like SquidZipper&#8230;.</p>
<p>This also goes to Charles&#8217; comment in #4 &#8212; <i>today</i>, I think the consumer is going to contact Century 21, because that&#8217;s all they remember.  And for what it&#8217;s worth, my recommendation to the Big Brokerage guys would be to guard that brand and that customer relationship <i>very</i> jealously.  Because if it ever should come to pass that the consumer routinely finds agents through Trulia&#8230; then Century 21&#8217;s days are numbered.</p>
<p>#7 Brad &#8211; First, thanks!  Second, with respect to your question&#8230; from the <i>agent&#8217;s</i> perspective, you&#8217;re absolutely right.  Because the Home Depot contractor here is not the brokerage company given the way compensation is structured in our industry.  But from the broker&#8217;s perspective &#8212; the guy taking on all the risk, all the overhead, all the liability insurance, and so on and so forth&#8230; I&#8217;m not entirely sure that&#8217;s a good thing.</p>
<p>You see this today in commercial real estate to some extent, where the &#8220;platform operators&#8221; have immense power.  Walk into any reasonably small local brokerage (not one of the Big Kids like CBRE and Cushman) and ask the top producing agent to choose between continuing to work at Joe Smith Brokerage or continuing to have CoStar.  You&#8217;ll be shocked at the answer.</p>
<p>If, and this is a big if, the broker is more than happy to become more-or-less the fulfillment arm of Zulioogle, then I suppose that&#8217;s a good business model.  Focus on what you&#8217;re good at &#8212; showing houses, shepherding people through the insane real estate closing process, etc. &#8212; and let Zulioogle focus on marketing, customer acquisition, and customer relationship management.</p>
<p>Three things about this plan, however.  One, you&#8217;d better <i>hope and pray</i> that you never piss off Zulioogle, or there goes your pipeline.  Two, you&#8217;d better hope that Zulioogle means it when they say they&#8217;ll never charge you a 30% referral fee, or set the maximum commission you can charge for any business coming from them, or&#8230; you get the idea.  And three, understand that Zulioogle doesn&#8217;t need you; it just needs your <i>agents.</i></p>
<p>-rsh</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Nix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad Nix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 01:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good stuff indeed.  As an owner/broker and practicing agent, I work hard to create the brand of service that has permanence and lasting local presence.

However, just to play devil&#039;s advocate....do you think the window installer really cares if you remember his name or brand?  Maybe he has a strong local business and a great relationship with Home Depot to continue making a successful living without your repeat business (do you really need windows again anyway?)  He may be better served to generate new business instead of repeat business.  He also may be better skilled at doing so.  Shouldn&#039;t everyone do what they do best?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good stuff indeed.  As an owner/broker and practicing agent, I work hard to create the brand of service that has permanence and lasting local presence.</p>
<p>However, just to play devil&#8217;s advocate&#8230;.do you think the window installer really cares if you remember his name or brand?  Maybe he has a strong local business and a great relationship with Home Depot to continue making a successful living without your repeat business (do you really need windows again anyway?)  He may be better served to generate new business instead of repeat business.  He also may be better skilled at doing so.  Shouldn&#8217;t everyone do what they do best?</p>
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		<title>By: Realtors Beware- Learning From Home Depot &#171; BlueRoof Blog- BlueRoof360- Real Estate, Realtor Websites</title>
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		<dc:creator>Realtors Beware- Learning From Home Depot &#171; BlueRoof Blog- BlueRoof360- Real Estate, Realtor Websites</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 22:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] at The Notorious R.O.B. (Rob works at OnBoard, a data aggregation company) wrote an excellent post about the damage that can be done to brokers and agents by using Trulia, Realtor.com, Zillow, and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] at The Notorious R.O.B. (Rob works at OnBoard, a data aggregation company) wrote an excellent post about the damage that can be done to brokers and agents by using Trulia, Realtor.com, Zillow, and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 22:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post- great insight into how the mind of the consumer gets taken away from the brand of the agent and brokerage with these tech-listing sites.

Brokers and agents would all do well to read this post and take some time to think about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post- great insight into how the mind of the consumer gets taken away from the brand of the agent and brokerage with these tech-listing sites.</p>
<p>Brokers and agents would all do well to read this post and take some time to think about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Woodall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Woodall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 21:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hardly a month goes by when we don&#039;t receive this call here in the office:

&quot;I am looking for the agent that sold me this house x years ago. I don&#039;t remember her name, but she worked with CENTURY 21.&quot;

Similar to the way you can&#039;t remember the installers name, but you&#039;ll remember for years that you bought the windows at Home Depot.

When agent don&#039;t keep in contact, which about 90% don&#039;t, having and promoting the brand locally makes the pickins&#039; easy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hardly a month goes by when we don&#8217;t receive this call here in the office:</p>
<p>&#8220;I am looking for the agent that sold me this house x years ago. I don&#8217;t remember her name, but she worked with CENTURY 21.&#8221;</p>
<p>Similar to the way you can&#8217;t remember the installers name, but you&#8217;ll remember for years that you bought the windows at Home Depot.</p>
<p>When agent don&#8217;t keep in contact, which about 90% don&#8217;t, having and promoting the brand locally makes the pickins&#8217; easy.</p>
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		<title>By: SquidZipper, Trulia, and HomeDepot: Future Tense &#124; The Long List of Odysseus Medal Nominees &#124; Realtors and real estate, mortgages, lending, investments</title>
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		<dc:creator>SquidZipper, Trulia, and HomeDepot: Future Tense &#124; The Long List of Odysseus Medal Nominees &#124; Realtors and real estate, mortgages, lending, investments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 20:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] SquidZipper, Trulia, and HomeDepot: Future Tense, by Rob Hahn. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jessie B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessie B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 20:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post with great observations. One that I&#039;m sure the likes of Trulia, Zillow, etc. would not necessarily like too many brokerage owners reading. 

Your observation seems supported by NAR surveys of repeat buyers, which indicate that although the user liked the initial experience with their agent, yet less than 50% used the same agent, a second time. 

As you indicate, maybe they didn&#039;t remember them, especially since many don&#039;t keep in touch with their past clients. If they can&#039;t remember the agent they worked with during an emotional time over 30-60 days, how would they ever remember the agents office (brand)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post with great observations. One that I&#8217;m sure the likes of Trulia, Zillow, etc. would not necessarily like too many brokerage owners reading. </p>
<p>Your observation seems supported by NAR surveys of repeat buyers, which indicate that although the user liked the initial experience with their agent, yet less than 50% used the same agent, a second time. </p>
<p>As you indicate, maybe they didn&#8217;t remember them, especially since many don&#8217;t keep in touch with their past clients. If they can&#8217;t remember the agent they worked with during an emotional time over 30-60 days, how would they ever remember the agents office (brand)?</p>
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		<title>By: rsh hits on the fact that very few (if any) brokerages have&#8230; &#171; 4realz.net</title>
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		<dc:creator>rsh hits on the fact that very few (if any) brokerages have&#8230; &#171; 4realz.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 20:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 22, 2008 by Dustin    &#8230;done even attempted to add value to their brands/websites by capturing the contributions/knowledge of their agents.   I fully realize that brokerages don&#8217;t see themselves as publishes (except of listings!), [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 22, 2008 by Dustin    &#8230;done even attempted to add value to their brands/websites by capturing the contributions/knowledge of their agents.   I fully realize that brokerages don&#8217;t see themselves as publishes (except of listings!), [...]</p>
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